I have seen those make money online scams, especially those work at home, paid surveys and get rich schemes, most of these scammers have used Clickbank as a way to amass thousands of dollars from unsuspecting and mostly innocent online buyers who were mostly drawn to neatly designed sales letters and marketing pitches promising hundreds of dollars just by working at home.
It is sad to note that a lot of people are still victims everyday - for paying programs worth USD49.00 to supposedly fill-up surveys which are not surveys at all, but outrageously simple instructions on how to earn from certain affiliate programs, advertising on many sites among others and tips that don’t simply work.
Clickbank is also host to cheap, useless e-Books and crap softwares that supposed online Marketing Gurus sell for prices ranging from a dollar to hundreds of dollars. Several people also claimed that they never received the items purchased from Clickbank sites and no refunds were ever made to them.
No wonder my Spyware program, Spyware Terminator, warns me everytime a site I visit gets some some codes from Clickbank, which, according to Spyware Terminator is a site reported to as dangerous.
Is Clickbank really this bad? How about those lots of people claiming they earned thousands of dollars thru Clickbank? Are they all scammers? Certainly not - is my answer. It is not wise to say that when some people use Clickbank to scam people, then Clickbank is a scam, don’t you agree?
I have personally came across a few good products thru Clickbank, and actually purchased them. I have spent a few hundred dollars for some Clickbank products, half of which were good, the other half is simply bad - and nowhere near delivering what it promised.
Did those experiences stopped me from using Clickbank? Nope. In fact, there’s this one good product I am so interested to become an affiliate that I applied for a Clickbank account - since the product’s affiliate program works only with Clickbank. I thought I could effectively market it as an affiliate and earn from it. However, when I clicked on the Clickbank site to register an account, I could not find my country, the Philippines among the list. Hitting the Contact form, I made an inquiry about the possibility of opening an affiliate account with Clickbank.
Here’s what I got from Clickbank Client Support:
Hello Roel,
Thank you for your interest in ClickBank! Unfortunately, our security team has determined that we can no longer accept clients from certain countries, including the Philippines, due to the high rate of fraud we have experienced from those areas. We apologize for any inconvenience.
Thank you.
zzz
ClickBank Client Support
zzz@ClickBank.com
After reading it, I said to myself, okay, no problem. But wait!, hey, you mean the Philippines was excluded because of the high rate of fraud? You mean because there were frauds coming from the Philippines so its better to exclude all Filipinos from earning money with Clickbank? And hey, does it mean that its okay, and there is no fraud from the Philippines when we buy stuffs from Clickbank? I have not remembered a single purchase transaction I made that was denied because it came from the Philippines and it might have been fraud purchase.
So does this mean its okay for Filipinos to spend dollars (well, combined purchases may not be as attractive compared to purchases from other countries), but they are excluded to earn dollars from Clickbank? I find this very absurd, and crap and a bugger and all! Its an insult not just to Filipinos considered as frauds, but also insult to common sense.
Is this the same as saying that Clickbank could not handle fraud from these countries, including the Philippines that they decided not to allow affiliates from these countries? Meaning Clickbank’s system is so flawed it could not handle frauds from these countries? Totally insane! Now, tell me, if Clickbank could not handle high rates of “fraud” from the Philippines and other countries, how could they assure users of other countries in their “safelist” against frauds? It would be totally unfair for Clickbank to opine that “frauds” only come from the Philippines and other similar countries and that no frauds coming from those countries included in their list.
My grandmother had a told me once that it is stupid to cut your smallest toe (is it called pinky toe? or Peedie?) because its giving you some little pain. You cannot fight “fraud” by cutting off places with supposedly “high” incidence of fraud, but rather, work on your system, build better security and invest on anti-fraud programs and technology.
This is simple, common sense approach to the problem, unfortunately, common sense isn’t common after all. With this, I am boycotting all Clickbank products. I will instruct my Spyware to block access to sites getting codes from Clickbank. I urge people with sensibilities to do the same. I will just find other means of affiliate marketplace, like PaydotCom. PaydotCom may have its share of problems with Clickbank, but at least, they are brave enough to accept countries which Clickbank blacklisted for their affiliate programs.
I know some of you may find this a stupid idea as most internet marketers are using Clickbank. However, like they say, to test if a bullet-proof vest is indeed bullet-proofed, try firing a gun at it - just another common sense.


































My country, Indonesia, is also well known for credit card frauds. I helped someone with an e-commerce site once, and we together blocked certain countries that are high in fraud history, including our own. Sadly, but it’s necessary.
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That’s a drag about not being able to work with clickbank. They do have some crappy products, but they do have soem great ones too. It’s kind of a gamble when you buy from there. I’m actually finishing up an e-book on blogging that I’ll be selling through clickbank, so I have to say I’m a fan.
Good post!
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I agree there are a lot of bad vendors on clickbank. There are also a few good programs. They should do a better job at screening their vendors.
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WAIS kasi ang Pinoy. Alam mo na. Sometimes, “some” bloggers click their own adsense ads when they are on internet cafes.
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Fighting internet fraud involves strengthening a program’s security. You can’t fight fraud by banning places where fraud supposedly originates. As the post stated in its last statements - to test a bullet-proof vest, you got to fire a gun at it….
Yes, I have to agree that all these stories about making all this money by selling products as an affiliate from Clickbank, Paydotcom, and many more is a bunch of lies and misleading claims! People have a chance making money or even getting close to being rich from these scams as playing and winning the these sorry State Lotteries. The only ones getting rich off of these get rich quick scams are the people that sucker innocent buyers into purchasing their products. This marketing on the Internet to make money is a useless waste of time! Go get a real job and stop dreaming!
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Some affiliate programs are scam. I do promote affiliate products in my blog using Clickbooth, but only promote those which I think are legit.
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Then no for Clickbank … huhuhu … I am just reading about making money over the web, where it suggested to be an affiliate of clickbank… but it won’t happen then … Thanks a bunch for the info.
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January 6th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
It’s just unfortunate that there are some programs like Clickbank who discriminate people who can join their program. I also find it absurd an excuse that there are too many fraud transactions coming from the Philippines that they have to ban Filipinos from joining.
They should instead find ways to address the fraud (if the claims are true) and that way, they can tell the world their program is foolproof.
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I totally agree. Now I’ looking into paydotcom as an alternative. I hope to hear some comments about it or read about it soon.
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January 6th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Actually, both are almost the same. I have a Paydotcom account, and it sucks really to find some programs there that are scam as well, just like clickbank’s. Its really a matter of doing some research before you could start promoting a product.
But if you have a product to sell, Paydotcom will do.
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Great, thanks for that headsup … Maybe you want to share which products or services are to be avoided in PayDotCom, for the benefit of your blog readers
.. just a suggestion … Many thanks
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Nice post B! I have never been to Clickbank actually, although I think some the e-books I downloaded (free) where from there. It’s sad that they have to cut the Philippines. Yes, I would that another case of discrimination.
So after reading your post, I think may never go to Clickbank after all
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Consider me a sceptic.
I signed up with Clickback at a book publishing conference six months ago, found the registration process a bit clunky, but had modest hopes for another revenue stream.
WHile I’ve sold a few dozen books and made some money, this outlet has been rather disappointing. Perhaps I’m not marketing my conversation skills books right to Clickbank distributors, but I sell far, far, far more books on Amazon and on my own little website than through Clickbank. The gap between their extreme hype and very limited results is quite large.
A few people have suggested that I made some other errors with CLickbank and that I just need to modify my pitch, etc. Perhaps.
I’m grateful to sell books to Rwanda, Italy, and England through them. So I can’t say they are a scam, but they have been - for this internet newbie - disappointing.
By the way, the original article’s power comes from its details and background. The more information that posters provide the easier it is for readers to assess the reasons for their bold conclusions.
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the system is rubbish the guy leases his cars his boat is not 1.5 million is alot less when i knew him personally he couldnt get a morgage so id say even the house is a rental…
its a scam who makes money he does and his friends form the mouth of his ex business colelague
his brothers guru scam is just as bad avoid avoid avoid and the others they are truely just scammers
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the system is rubbish the guy leases his cars his boat is not 1.5 million is alot less when i knew him personally he couldnt get a morgage so id say even the house is a rental…
its a scam who makes money he does and his friends form the mouth of his ex business colleague
his brothers guru scam is just as bad avoid avoid avoid and the others they are truely just scammers
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Interesting comment on clickbank. However internet security is still an issue.
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This confirms what American’s have known for years: foreigners don’t matter.
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I can feel your pain. I was so excited to join Clickbank after reading an affiliate marketing book recommending the Clickbank route. To my horror, Clickbank does not allow Filipinos to join.
It reminded me of how Paypal used to be, hopefully, they will allow Philippines somewhere in the future.
Another alternative route would be to join other affiliate programs or have a US (Clickbank allowed countries) relative partner with you and process the encashing of checks for you.
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“So does this mean its okay for Filipinos to spend dollars (well, combined purchases may not be as attractive compared to purchases from other countries), but they are excluded to earn dollars from Clickbank?”
YOU GOT IT!
One would logically assume that any fraud is done by BUYERS using credit cards, but I cannot see how there can be fraudulent transactions entered into by Filipinos as affiliates.
I believe Clickbank merely discriminates against the poorer nations of the world.
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Ok I see a lot of disgruntled people saying bad things about Clickbank on this blog. Now to clear some things up…ok 1st) money doesnt grow on trees 2)money doesnt come to you magically by signing up as an affiliate with Clickbank 3) There is no such thing as a ‘Get Rich Quick Scheme’ 4)Whether you build houses for a living or sell online, it takes A LOT of learning and hard work to get results, and if you are not prepared to educate yourself on the various ways of finding the LEGIT and Profitable products and then how to market them, then get a day job and dont complain about you limited salary.
Online marketing is one of the most diverse selling platforms ive come across and takes a lot of researching, learning (from professionals), strategising and then TAKING ACTION. (Very important)
There are certain ways to find products that will earn you big money if you are prepared to find out. There are more than 1,5 million affiliates promoting products through Clickbank and only 1% of those actually make a decent living off doing it. So, together with arming yourself with the neccessary skills and knowledge of promoting yourself and your product online, you need to think outside of the box.
You need to let go of your limiting beliefs as well which create blockages to income streams so that you may recieve the money you want. (a bit new age but very valid)
If you want to make a success as an affiliate on Clickbank, push on, work harder, learn more…and it will inevitably result in YOU making more profits than you expected.
Have a creative vision that goes beyond making money. Create a vision that will create money asa by-product by promoting products and giving more to your customers than what they are paying you for. Naturally this will result in you making more money than you ever imagined.
“I know of nothing more despicable and pathetic than a man who devotes all
the hours of the waking day to the making of money for money’s sake.”
~John D. Rockefeller
Just a closing note, Clickbank is a payment gateway. They DO NOT own the products on their site, they merely provide a platform for Transactions to take place SAFELY and SECURELY. And they will most likely attract bad products like anything in life, so watch out. Knowledge is Power.
THINK LIKE A BILLIONARE
I hope this helped somewhat…
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